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re: Does God Set Us Up?
 by dchsknight on Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:22 pm
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re: Does God Set Us Up?
by Wildbillkickoff on Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:25 pm
And, why that posted twice, a couple hours apart, I have no idea. Reply to dchs to follow when I have more time.
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re: Does God Set Us Up?
by Talyc'jatne on Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:37 pm
| Quote: | | Are you serious right now? are you comparing the actions of a sinful evil man to a perfect Holy God? |
I am serious. And no, I am not comparing the ACTIONS of God vs the ACTIONS of men. I am comparing the relationship of their power. As in Master-Subordinate relationship.
I am not saying that Hitler's action against the Jews was Godly....or AM I?  I just can't believe that God, the same God who came to Earth in flesh as Jesus of Nazareth, would actually do any harm to his own creation. Perhaps we should go back and see what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah....
I like Wild'bill's attitude toward it. Let's be with Jesus. Let's be where we are persecuted and scrutinized for the name of Christ, and may we give the glory to Him!
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re: Does God Set Us Up?
by Wildbillkickoff on Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:38 pm
Now then...
Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing. (James 1:2-4 ESV)
Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? (Galatians 3:3 ESV)
The passage in James indicates that trials produce steadfastness, which perfects our faith. The Galatians passage indicates that it is foolish to believe that becoming perfected comes from anywhere but the Spirit.
This one is not cut and dried, dchs. Trials must therefore be different from temptations if both passage you quoted about temptations and the ones I quoted about trials are true.
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re: Does God Set Us Up?
by dchsknight on Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:57 pm
I have removed my self from this conversation.
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re: Does God Set Us Up?
by Talyc'jatne on Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:03 pm
| dchsknight wrote: | | I have removed my self from this conversation. |
Darn it!!
Dutchess thanks for making me realize I forgot to post the Disclaimer...I will update the OP.
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re: Does God Set Us Up?
by SaintVassago on Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:05 pm
Yes.
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re: Does God Set Us Up?
by jaytrust on Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:33 pm
Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, left the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, where for forty days he was tempted by the devil.-Luke 4:1
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re: Does God Set Us Up?
by Talyc'jatne on Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:16 am
Personal opinion here, but I think its a good thing that I accept that God tests me. If I am able to know that about God, I am able to cope easier with bad things that happen in my life. Jesus himself was led by the Spirit into being tested.
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